DiscographyDennis Remmer of FactoryRecords.info has compiled a great Section 25 discography which we have reproduced here (Cheers Dennis!). Updates to follow.
Singles
Girls Don’t Count (Jul 80)
7?: UK 1980 (Factory FAC 18) [tracing paper sleeve] *
12?: UK 1980 (Factory FAC 18-12) **
4:16 Girls Don’t Count
4:30 Knew Noise
4:00 Up to You
- Recorded Cargo Studios, Rochdale. Produced by Ian Curtis & Rob Gretton.
* Assembled in a workshop for the deaf.
** Available in three different sleeves.
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Click here to see a picture of Girls Don’t Count 12? (I)
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Charnel Ground (Oct 80)
7?: BL 1980 (Factory Benelux / Crepescule FAC BN 3-006)
3:55 Charnel Ground
3:17 Haunted
- Produced by Martin Hannett.
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Je Veux Ton Amour (Aug 81)
7?: BL 1981 (Factory Benelux FAC BN 5)
5:16 Je Veux Ton Amour *
4:21 Oyo Achel Ada **
* French version of Dirty Disco.
** Hawaiian translation to ‘One True Path’.
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The Beast (Jul 82)
12?: UK 1982 (Factory FAC 66)
8:04 The Beast
3:46 Sakura
5:23 Sakura (Matrix Mix)
4:31 Trident *
- Recorded at SSRY. Produced by Section 25, Jon Hurst and Bernard Sumner.
* Live in New York, February 1982. Likely one of the unreleased
‘Live in America’ LP (see FACTUS 9) tracks.
~ So Sad: Without Love
~ Get Your Kicks on FAC 66
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Back to Wonder (Jun 83)
7?: UK 1983 (Factory FAC 68)
3:09 Back to Wonder
3:55 Beating Heart
12?: UK 1983 (Factory FAC 68-12) [test pressing]
4:57 Beating Heart *
3:15 Back to Wonder
5:00 Beating Heart *
- Produced by Section 25 and Bernard Sumner.
* Similar versions but different to 7? version.
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Looking From a Hilltop (Jun 84)
12?: UK 1984 (Factory FAC 108)
4:34 Looking From a Hilltop (Restructure)
8:04 Looking From a Hilltop (Megamix)
- Produced by Bernard Sumner and Donald Johnson.
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Crazy Dancing (n/a)
12?: UK n/a (Factory FAC 132T)
- Single never released. The project was transferred to FBN (see below).
Crazy Wisdom (Sep 85)
12?: BL 1985 (Factory Benelux FBN 45)
4:33 Crazy Wisdom
5:19 Dirty Disco II
3:00 Guitar Waltz
- FBN was to also release a 7?, which was scrapped.
- Produced by Bernard Sumner and Donald Johnson.
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Bad News Week (May 87)
12?: UK 1987 (Factory FAC 157)
4:56 Bad News Week
7:39 Bad News Week 2 (Cough Mix)
- Produced by Section 25, Remixed by Bernard Sumner.
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Albums
Always Now (Sep 81)
LP: UK 1981 (Factory FACT 45) *
CS: UK 1986 (Factory FACT 45C) [boxed] **
CD: BL 1991 (Les Temps Modernes LTMCD 2308) ***
3:02 Friendly Fires
5:08 Dirty Disco
2:17 c.p.
2:32 Loose Talk (Costs Lives)
2:48 Inside Out
2:45 Melt Close
2:49 Hit
5:13 Babies In The Bardo
4:28 Be Brave
5:53 New Horizon
3:17 Haunted ***/****
3:55 Charnel Ground ***/****
4:30 Knew Noise ***/******
4:00 Up To You ***/******
4:16 Girls Don’t Count ***/******
4:21 Oyo Achel Ada ***/*****
2:50 After Image ***/*******
1:49 Red Voice ***/********
* Packaged in matchbook-like construction and printed on
yellow waxed, marble interior design paper. Originally to be
packaged with triplefold poster inserts, which were made but
not used for the initial release.
** Comes in a dark green box with the cassette in a plastic tray
and has a small card with song titles, printed on the same
paper as on the LP version.
**** From FAC BN 3-006
***** From FBN 5
****** From FAC 18
******* From “Hicks from the Sticks”/”Future Shock” Compilations
******** From “Blackpool Rox” Compilation
- LP recorded at Brittania Row, London. Produced by Martin Hannett.
~ Gate Gate Paragate Parasamgate
~ Bodhi Svaha
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The Key of Dreams (Jun 82)
LP: BL 1982 (Factory Benelux FBN 14)
CD: BL 1991 (Le Temps Modernes LTMCD 2310) *
1:50 Always Now
3:22 Visitation
3:55 Regions
4:07 The Wheel
5:25 No Abiding Place
2:48 Once Before
5:26 There Was A Time
1:56 Wretch
15:00 Sutra
8:04 The Beast */**
3:46 Sakura */**
5:16 Je Veux Ton Amour */***
5:23 Sakura (Matrix Mix) */**
5:45 Hold Me */****
- Recorded at SSRU. Produced by Section 25.
** From FAC 66
*** From FBN 5
**** From “Hours”/”Heures Sans Soleil” Compilations
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From The Hip (Mar 84)
LP: UK 1984 (Factory FACT 90)
LP: US 1984 (Factory US FACTUS 14)
LP: BL 1984 (Factory Benelux FBN 33) [test pressing only]
LP: BL 1984 (Himalaya/Another Side SIDE 8411) *
LP: CA 1984 (Polygram FACD 20)
CS: UK 1986 (Factory FACT 90C) [boxed]
5:09 The Process
4:06 Looking From a Hilltop
4:30 Reflection
3:24 Prepare to Live
3:55 Program for Light
3:12 Desert
4:13 Beneath the Blade
6:40 Inspiration
CD: BL 1991 (Le Temps Modernes LTMCD 2314)
5:09 The Process
4:06 Looking From a Hilltop
4:30 Reflection
3:24 Prepare to Live
3:55 Program for Light
3:12 Desert
4:13 Beneath the Blade
6:40 Inspiration
4:02 Beating Heart **
3:09 Back to Wonder **
4:33 Crazy Wisdom ***
5:19 Dirty Disco II ***
3:00 Guitar Waltz ***
8:08 Looking From A Hilltop (Megamix) ****
CD: UK 1998 (Le Temps Modernes LTMCD 2314) [reissue] (Sep 98)
5:09 The Process
4:06 Looking From a Hilltop
4:30 Reflection
3:24 Prepare to Live
3:55 Program for Light
3:12 Desert
4:13 Beneath the Blade
6:40 Inspiration
4:37 Looking From A Hilltop (Restructure) ****
8:07 Looking From A Hilltop (Megamix) ****
5:27 Dirty Disco II
4:01 Dirty Disco II (Pre Mix) *****
5:02 Beating Heart (12? Remix) ******
3:16 Back to Wonder (12? Version) ******
5:06 Beating Heart (2nd 12? Mix) ******
- LP recorded at Rockfield Studios, Wales. Produced by Section 25
and Bernard Sumner.
- Apparently the LP was originally to be released in a rubber sleeve!
The pole sleeve is an alternative design, due to the original idea
not able to be realised (in time?).
* Pressed using FBN 33 plates.
** From FAC 68.
*** From FBN 45.
**** From FAC 108.
***** Previously unreleased mix of Dirty Disco II.
****** From FAC 68-12.
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Live in America (n/a)
LP: US n/a (Factory US FACTUS 9)
?:?? There Was A Time
?:?? Untitled
?:?? You Leave Me No Choice
?:?? Trident
?:?? One True Path
?:?? Melt Close
?:?? Babies In The Bardo
?:?? Dirty Disco
?:?? Untitled
?:?? You Leave Me No Choice
- Never released. Track contents hypothetical, but based on contents of
the “Live Music” Relevant cassette issue (see below).
- Tracks that were to appear on this release have surfaced on the
LTM CD 2312 release (see below).
Love and Hate (Mar 88)
LP: UK 1987 (Factory FACT 160)
CD: UK 1999 (Les Temps Modernes LTMCD 2318) *
6:35 Sweet Forgiveness
5:58 Conquer Me
4:23 Sprinkling Petals into Hell
3:16 The Last Man in Europe
5:24 Bad News Week
2:29 Tim Lick My Knees
4:42 Shit Creek No Paddle
5:05 Warhead
3:40 Carcrash
4:56 Bad News Week */**
7:39 Bad News Week 2 (Cough Mix) */**
4:33 Crazy Wisdom */***
3:00 Guitar Waltz */***
?:?? The Model (Live) */****
** From FAC 157.
*** From FBN 45.
**** Live from ???.
- LP originally titled ‘Sprinkling Petals Into Hell’, but changed
at last minute.
- Recorded in 16-trk Studio, Blackpool. Produced by Section 25.
~ More Love than Hate
~ Eatshitfuckface
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Live in America & Europe 1982 (Sep 97)
CS: BL 1991 (Les Temps Modernes LTM 2312) [promo/demo]
0:55 (Introduction)
4:27 Trident
3:50 Babies In The Bardo
5:29 Sakura
6:32 Dirty Disco
4:09 Floating
6:30 The Beast
0:55 (Audience Noise And Intermezzo)
4:38 You Leave Me No Choice
- Official status of this demo tape needs confirmation. These
tracks all recorded in New York, February 1982.
CD: UK 1997 (Les Temps Modernes [Black Box Series] LTMCD 2312)
?:?? God’s Playground *
?:?? Babies In The Bardo **
?:?? Trident **
?:?? Dirty Disco ***
?:?? Sakura ***
?:?? Inside Out ****
?:?? One True Path ***
?:?? Floating *****
?:?? The Beast **
?:?? You Leave Me No Choice **
?:?? God’s Playground Pt.2 ******
?:?? Warhead *******
?:?? Haunted ********
* Italian tour 12.82
** NYC Dancetaria 19.2.82
*** Washington DC 9:30 Club 13.2.82
**** Nothingham Rock City 1982
***** London The Venue 6.5.82
****** Brussels Art & Buffet 14.1.82
******* Manchester Hacienda 3.2.83
******** Bochum Zeche 13.1.82, with Crispy Ambulance
- Limited edition of 500 copies only.
- The first 100 copies were individually numbered.
- James Nice’ (LTM) original idea for this CD was:
Since there were not enough good live tracks from the February 1982
tour - to pad out the CD with live recordings from the bands second
US tour, Jan/Feb 85. including live interpretations of ‘Warhead’,
‘Looking From A Hilltop’ and Kraftwerk’s ‘The Model’. Nothing usable
survived from those dates.
Deus Ex Machina - Archive Recordings 1983-1985 (Aug 98 )
CD: UK 1997 (Les Temps Modernes LTMCD 2316)
?:?? Tchaiko *
?:?? 4MTI *
?:?? Deus Ex Machina *
?:?? Firefly **
?:?? Days Pass By **
?:?? Loving **
?:?? The Process ***
?:?? Looking From A Hilltop ***
?:?? Program For Light ***
?:?? Beneath The Blade ***
?:?? Inspiration ***
?:?? Sweet Forgiveness ****
?:?? Slinky ****
* Previously unheard instrumental demo tracks from 1984/85.
** Manchester Hacienda 02.83
*** Baton Rouge, Louisiana ??.84(?)
**** Preston Guildhall 10.85 (one of the last shows by the group)
- Limited edition of 500 copies only.
- The first 100 copies were individually numbered.
- Combines three unheard 1984/85 instrumental demo tracks with
sound desk recorded live material taped between 1983 and 1985.
- Relevant Music released a cassette by this name in 1985,
(see Miscellaneous section below). This CD likely contains elements
of what was on the cassette. Need confirmation.
Compilations
Hicks From The Sticks (Apr 80)
LP: UK 1980 (Rockburgh ROC 111)
2:50 After Image
- Compilation later reissued as “Future Shock”, see below
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Blackpool Rox (Apr 80)
7?: UK 1980 (Vinyl Drip Records DRIP 001)
1:49 Red Voice
- Recorded at SSRU.
Hours (May 82)
LP: NT 1982 (Plurex 2400)
5:45 Hold Me
Click here to see a picture of Hours
Endzeit (??? 82)
CS: UK 1982 (Power Focus Records 003/data 0012)
?:?? Hit *
?:?? Inside Out **
?:?? The Visitation ***
* Original version, later rerecorded for Always Now LP
** Live at the Milky Way, Amsterdam
*** Early version, later rerecorded for Key of Dreams LP
- A loose cassette with a double-sided folded paper insert stuck
inside a plastic sleeve.
- Also features Cultural Amnesia, Culturcide, Raudive Bunker Experiment,
Die Klopferband, and the Virgin Prunes.
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New Horizons (??? 83)
CS: SC 1983 (Le Temps Modernes CSBT V.I) [1st edition] *
Knew Noise (Live)
Untitled (Live)
Charnel Ground (Live)
Dirty Disco (Live)
Untitled (Live)
Girls Don’t Count (Live)
CS: SC 1983 (Les Temps Modernes CSBT V.I) [2nd edition] **
Knew Noise (Live)
Untitled (Live)
Friendly Fires (Live)
Girls Don’t Count (Live)
Dirty Disco (Live)
Charnel Ground (Live)
New Horizon (Live)
Haunted (Live)
* Live at The Lyceum London, June 15 1980.
** Live at Hal 4, Rotterdam, October 30 1980.
- C-46 featuring various artists on the A-side and live material by Section
25 on the B-side. Mail-order only, limited edition of 50 cassettes.
- This was LTM’s/James Nice’ first release. The label was based in
Edinburgh, Scotland at the time. ‘CSBTV’ was the name of a fanzine
James ran before he started the label, hence the prefix.
Rising From The Red Sand Vol. 1 (???84)
CS: UK 1984 (Third Mind TMT 04)
1:42 In The Garden Of Eden
- Compilation of various artists.
- Rising From The Red Sand is two cassettes which supposedly came together,
Vol.1 which makes up sides 1 & 2 and Vol.2 which is 3 & 4.
Click here to see a picture of Rising v1
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Rising From The Red Sand Vol. 2 (??? 84)
CS: UK 1984 (Third Mind TMT 05)
4:21 Cry
- Compilation of various artists.
- Rising From The Red Sand is two cassettes which supposedly came together,
Vol.1 which makes up sides 1 & 2 and Vol.2 which is 3 & 4.
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Extremism In The Vice Of Liberty Is No Crime (Feb 85)
CS: US 1985 (Teenbeat TEENBEAT 1)
?:?? Ten
?:?? Inspiration
- 20-track C-60 featuring Unrest, Thirsty Boys, Jeff Zitofsky, Jungle
George & The Plague, Fred & Ginger and Section 25. The 2 Sec25
tracks were bootlegged from a concert at the Washinton DC ‘9:30 Club’.
Edition of 60. This was the very first Teenbeat release.
Heures Sans Soleil (Oct 85)
LP: SC 1985 (Les Temps Modernes LTM V.XI)
?:?? An Introduction
5:45 Hold Me
- Title translates as “Hours without sun”.
Future Shock (??? 85)
LP: UK 1985 (Thunderbolt THBL 012)
2:50 After Image
- Reissue of “Hicks From the Sticks” compilation, see above
Crepuscule Collection 3 - The Rough With The Smooth (Dec 86)
LP: BL 1986 (Crepuscule TWI 651)
4:33 Crazy Wisdom
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Tears In Their Eyes (Nov 91)
LP: UK 1991 (Factory FACT 314)
CD: UK 1991 (Factory FACD 314)
CS: UK 1991 (Factory FACT 314C)
6:04 New Horizon
- Full title “Palatine - The Factory Story/Vol. 1/1979-1982/Tears In
Their Eyes”
- Part of the FACT 400 package, or available separately.
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Life’s A Beach (Nov 91)
LP: UK 1991 (Factory FACT 324)
CD: UK 1991 (Factory FACD 324)
CS: UK 1991 (Factory FACT 324C)
4:38 Looking From a Hilltop
- Full title “Palatine - The Factory Story/Vol. 2/1981-1986/Life’s A Beach”
- Part of the FACT 400 package, or available separately.
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Videos
A Factory Complication (Nov 81)
VHS: BL 1981 (Factory Benelux FAC BN 7)
VHS: UK 1981 (IKON IKON 1)
BETA: BL 1981 (Factory Benelux FAC BN 7)
BETA: UK 1981 (IKON IKON 1)
6:00 New Horizon
- FAC BN 7 was originally allocated to what became FAC BN 6, according to
an early Factory Benelux releases poster.
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A Factory Video (Aug 82)
VHS: UK 1982 (Factory FACT 56) [PAL/NTSC]
VHS: UK 198? (Ikon IKON3) [PAL/NTSC]
5:57 New Horizon
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A Factory Outing (Dec 83)
VHS: UK 1983 (Factory FACT 71V) [PAL/NTSC]
BETA: UK 1983 (Factory FACT 71B)
VHS: UK 198? (Ikon IKON?) [PAL/NTSC]
4:48 Warhead
- Live at The Hacienda Club, Manchester (February 1983).
- The packaging says in big numerals “51? / “71?, indicating the previous
point (see also FAC 51).
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Shorts Video (Apr 85)
VHS: UK 1985 (Factory FACT 137)
VHS: UK 198? (Ikon IKON12) [PAL/NTSC]
3:19 Back to Wonder
4:37 Looking From a Hilltop
Click here to see a picture of Shorts
Minneapolis 29.1.85 (??? 85)
VHS: FR 1985 (Structure Moderne SM 12)
[Contents unknown]
So Far (Aug 85)
2xVHS: UK 1985 (Relevant Music ???) [boxed]
[Tape 1]
[Contents unknown - various Factory videos]
[Tape 2]
[Contents unknown - concert footage from 84/85]
Crepescule Collection 3 - The Rough with the Smooth (Dec 86)
LP: BL 1986 (Crepescule TWI 651)
4:33 Crazy Wisdom
Other Releases
Illuminous Illuminae (??? 82)
CS: UK 1982 (Relevant Music ???)
?:?? Fallen
?:?? Are You There?
?:?? Virtually Every
?:?? Fallen
?:?? Tape Loop
?:?? Bells And Cymbals
?:?? V. Organ
?:?? Subferior
?:?? In The Garden Of Eden
?:?? Untitled
?:?? Fallen Reprise
?:?? Untitled
?:?? SS Documentary
?:?? Inside Out
?:?? One True Path
?:?? Western
?:?? Human Puppets
?:?? Subs
?:?? Inside Out (ive)
?:?? SS Documentary
Live In The Milky Way (??? 84)
CS: UK 1984 (Relevant Music ???)
[Contents unknown]
Live Master (??? 84)
CS: UK 1984 (Relevant Music ???)
?:?? There Was A Time
?:?? Untitled
?:?? You Leave Me No Choice
?:?? Trident
?:?? One True Path
?:?? Melt Close
?:?? Babies In The Bardo
?:?? Dirty Disco
?:?? Untitled
?:?? You Leave Me No Choice
- Apparently a demo version (10 tracks) of FACTUS 9.
Studio Master (??? 84)
CS: UK 1984 (Relevant Music ???)
?:?? Looking From A Hilltop (Drums)
?:?? Reflection (Drums)
?:?? Program For Light (Drums)
?:?? Untitled
?:?? Desert
?:?? Beneath The Blade (Remix?)
?:?? Studio Jam
?:?? Untitled Instrumental
?:?? Back To Wonder (Instrumental)
?:?? Beating Heart (Demo)
?:?? Warhead (Demo)
?:?? The Process (Demo)
Deu Ex Machina (Aug 85)
CS: UK 1985 (Relevant Music ???)
[Contents unknown]
- Les Temps Modernes released a CD album by this name in 1998,
(see albums section above). The CD likely contains elements of what
was on this cassette. Need confirmation.
Miscellaneous and Unreleased
BBC Session 1 (??? 81)
U/R: UK 1981 (BBC Radio)
One True Path
Babies In The Bardo
Hit
- Record for John Peel Session
BBC Session 2 (??? 84)
U/R: UK 1984 (BBC Radio)
Warhead
Looking From A Hilltop
Reflection
- Recorded for David Jensen Session